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Title: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on March 30, 2023, 16:18:48
Since I can't find a solution to handle a large database without detaching the Local.adb file.
Is it possible to use 2 players independently of each other?
I want to use a portable one just for listening to music and creating playlists, and the other one just for manipulating the music library.
I already tried but always one triggers the other one... thanks
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on March 30, 2023, 16:37:05

I want to use a portable one just for listening to music and creating playlists, and the other one just for manipulating the music library.

Yes, it would work. Just run the app with "/DEBUG" key
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on March 30, 2023, 16:48:10
Yes, it would work. Just run the app with "/DEBUG" key

.. you got me now..  ::) ... what is "/DEBUG" key  :-\ .. coudnt even google it ...  ???
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Алексей Долматов on March 30, 2023, 16:58:11
https://www.aimp.ru/forum/index.php?topic=259.msg135976#msg135976
Use a translator.
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on March 30, 2023, 21:41:53
.. you got me now..  ::) ... what is "/DEBUG" key  :-\ .. coudnt even google it ...  ???

Refer to the Main Menu \ Help.
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on March 31, 2023, 09:24:23
Ok, I got it somehow using the command "C:\AIMP\AIMP.exe"/DEBUG
... still have some confusion  :-\

-Do I always have to start the program from the RUN command or I can make a shortcut?

-How to copy ONLY player settings, interface look, shortcuts.. WITHOUT linking the music library.
Copying ini file from the profile folder I get what I want but also player automatically links the music library which I don't want.
Which string in the ini file do I have to change or delete?
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on March 31, 2023, 11:25:31
I can make a shortcut?

Yes, of course, you can modify shortcut.

How to copy ONLY player settings, interface look, shortcuts.. WITHOUT linking the music library.
Copying ini file from the profile folder I get what I want but also player automatically links the music library which I don't want.

All sections that starts from "MusicLibrary"

[MusicLibrary]
[MusicLibrary.TAIMPMLLocalDataStorage.Presets]
and etc
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on March 31, 2023, 17:20:30
OK, library and shortcut solved, thank you!
Could you please help me with this:

-Can the player write ratings instantly in the ID of the file or do I have to go to the "Synchronize user-defined rating with tags of audio file" option manually each time after rating the songs although that option is checked under music library in the preferences?
So, when I rate songs in the portable player, it makes its own music library again in the profile folder otherwise its not possible to rate songs at all if the option "add files to the database when: SET USER RATING" ... and the other player doesn't see ratings before I synchronize them manually ...

-By any chance, is it possible to set up both players to use the same playlists?

-In some of the older versions it was possible adding a whole folder from the file explorer (Total Commander in my case) to the AIMP, to play files or just to add them to one of the playlists, how to rewoke that option again?
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on April 01, 2023, 12:13:31
Can the player write ratings instantly in the ID of the file or do I have to go to the "Synchronize user-defined rating with tags of audio file" option manually each time after rating the songs although that option is checked under music library in the preferences?

AIMP it does in background thread (it does with small delay after set rating). If you rate playing track, the rating will be written after playback
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on April 01, 2023, 12:14:40
By any chance, is it possible to set up both players to use the same playlists?

No

-In some of the older versions it was possible adding a whole folder from the file explorer (Total Commander in my case) to the AIMP, to play files or just to add them to one of the playlists, how to rewoke that option again?

App settings / system / integration to windows explorer
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: shifr on April 01, 2023, 14:00:44
I use a lot of players, starting with AIMP2. 3 and 4 in double. just renamed it AIMP4.exe in AIMP4-.exe . set it up as it should. so much for 2 in one. it is desirable that the covers are the same. otherwise there were problems.
I wrote in Yandex translator, without complaints.
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on April 02, 2023, 18:46:36
+I can see when the player is writing down the ID tag after synchronizing a few songs at once, the indicator is rendering at the bottom of the window.
Also, the date of the file is changed in the explorer and the rating is visible in file properties, but it is not in the player.. both "reload tags functions are not showing anything"...
The strangest thing is that the portable player (orange) is not showing old-rated files, and the installed player (green) is not showing the newly-rated files.  ???

(https://i.ibb.co/hftLZFg/no-rating.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L52YJd0)
(https://i.ibb.co/bQHyd6b/no-rating-i-NSTAL-p.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gmvXgr4)


Is the player showing ratings directly from the files or songs must be imported into the library first?  ::)

+File association, I want to make the portable player the main one, so that always plays on double click from explorer.
When I uncheck file extensions in one player it also unchecks in the other one.. probably they are both writing in the same registry...

+The Installed version won't start after the portable one is active, therefore I always have to start the portable after the installed player, not vice versa...  :-\

Installed version: "C:\Program Files\AIMP\AIMP.exe"
Portable: C:\AIMP\AIMP.exe /DEBUG
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on April 02, 2023, 23:54:25
Is the player showing ratings directly from the files or songs must be imported into the library first? 

Yes, player displays rating only for files that indexed by music library.

When I uncheck file extensions in one player it also unchecks in the other one.. probably they are both writing in the same registry
Yes, of course. AIMP not designed to run in multiple instances.
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on April 03, 2023, 08:08:30
huh, so Im not lucky with listening to music and rating at the same time..  :(
May I ask what is downside if the player reads rating tags directly from tags?
It's been a long time but as I remember old Winamp was working that way.
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on April 03, 2023, 08:12:41
huh, so Im not lucky with listening to music and rating at the same time..  :(
May I ask what is downside if the player reads rating tags directly from tags?
It's been a long time but as I remember old Winamp was working that way.

Why you need a two copies?
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on April 03, 2023, 08:25:45
As I have mentioned, my library is quite large because Im collecting music...
The player cant handle large databases.. even simply playing songs causes the player to freeze and be non-responsive for 20 seconds or longer or even crush..
I'm struggling with that for quite a long time...
My goal with 2 players was to use one just for listening and the other one for manipulating the database
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on April 03, 2023, 18:54:05
What number of files inside the music library database? What size of database on HDD?
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on April 03, 2023, 19:16:34
We talked about it here:
https://www.aimp.ru/forum/index.php?topic=70164.msg430686#msg430686:~:text=11%3A33%3A55-,628%20771%20or%203607%20GB%20of%20songs...%20player%20really%20struggles%20to%20handle%20that,-Wow.%20I%20have
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: Artem on April 03, 2023, 20:19:10
We talked about it here:
https://www.aimp.ru/forum/index.php?topic=70164.msg430686#msg430686:~:text=11%3A33%3A55-,628%20771%20or%203607%20GB%20of%20songs...%20player%20really%20struggles%20to%20handle%20that,-Wow.%20I%20have

Yes, you are right. thank you. Will think about the solution.
Title: Re: Using 2 separate players on the same PC
Post by: verbal on April 03, 2023, 20:22:13
I appreciate it a lot 🙏