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Title: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: Chim on March 08, 2018, 20:36:36
While I have made huge progress with editing the tags on tons of my music files, here and there I am encountering some that the edit will just not take.  I have attached a screen cap of an example.

Oh sure, I sometimes catch the culprit that I left the particular song in question playing over on my VLC Media Player as I was checking the order of the songs.  I'll correct things on those occasions.  But, there are the other occasions where as far as I can see, there is nothing that should be preventing the editing from going through.  I'll even close VLC entirely and any music folders that might have been open.  Still though, those files here and there still refuse to allow Tag edits to go through.

Any insight?  What is going on?  What is the fix.  I sure hope there is a fix.  Because I would hate to have to deal with various playlists not being able to be completed correctly and thoroughly because some song files won't cooperate with the Tag Editor.

Would performing the Tag editing in Windows SAFE Mode do the trick?
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: ᴋɴᴛʀᴏ on March 08, 2018, 21:17:55
Chim,

Hello!

Maybe this (https://www.aimp.ru/forum/index.php?topic=58707.msg363889#msg363889) answers your question.

Best regards.
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: Chim on March 09, 2018, 01:07:41
Thanks for the reply, ЌИГЯФ.

So then basically there is a flaw in the file?  So I take it that there is no fix?
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: ᴋɴᴛʀᴏ on March 09, 2018, 01:24:19
There's no fix for the time being and —despite that— there's actually no compatibility with AAC/M4A/MP4 metadata/tag edition in AIMP. ???
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: sveakul on March 09, 2018, 08:29:56
Chim:  try editing the problem files with the latest development version of the Kid3 tag editor.  Among other things the change log indicates:

"5 Jan 2018... fixed adding and deleting unknown MP4 atoms..."

https://sourceforge.net/projects/kid3/files/kid3/development/kid3-git20180210-win32.zip/download

Good luck!
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: Chim on March 10, 2018, 06:05:16
sveakul ... with my Dial Up Internet, SourceForge downloads have always been problematic.  And recently they've been impossible.  However, I take it this link from Softpedia is the same thing?  http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Tag-Editors/Kid3.shtml  I might get bold enough and give it a try tomorrow Saturday sometime.

Thanks sveakul ... ЌИГЯФ.
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: Chim on March 10, 2018, 06:12:00
Uh Oh!  I just tried to download it from Softpedia and the external mirror is actually the same SourceForge source.  :o So, the download is not going to happen.  :'(

Any other possible Tag Editor that doesn't have to be downloaded from SourceForge?
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: Chim on March 10, 2018, 06:26:03
I found some instructions on how to edit the Tags using VLC.  I'll give that a try tomorrow as it's getting late here right now.
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: sveakul on March 10, 2018, 06:35:15
Uh Oh!  I just tried to download it from Softpedia and the external mirror is actually the same SourceForge source.  :o So, the download is not going to happen.  :'(

Any other possible Tag Editor that doesn't have to be downloaded from SourceForge?

Is it the file size that's stopping you at Sourceforge, or??  You could get the release version of Kid3 (but it's not the development version) at MajorGeeks but of course size is the same:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/kid3.html

Other than Kid3, you could give TagScanner a try:

https://www.xdlab.ru/en/download.htm

Or, Mp3tag:

https://www.mp3tag.de/en/download.html

I would use the tagger to first completely remove the existing MP4 tag, then re-tag from its own interface.  I hope something works out.
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: Chim on March 11, 2018, 03:03:48
YES!  Success!  That Kid3 Tag Editor worked, sveakul. :D 8)

This begs the question --- If Kid3 can do it ... then the AIMP Tag Editor SHOULD be able to do it, right?  Well, you know, if the Devs incorporate the appropriate fix, right?

Should I post that suggestion in the Suggestions thread?

Anyway, major thanks for the Kid3 suggestion, sveakul.  :)
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: sveakul on March 11, 2018, 06:40:11
Good to hear that, Chim!

I have always done tag editing outside of the music players I use that have built-in ones.  Not because any of those aren't good, but because external tagger developers only have to worry about fixing/adding/updating to one line of functioning instead of the incredible amount of angles a player's developer has to stay on top of.

Glad it worked  :)
Title: Re: Files That Cannot Be Edited with Tag Editor
Post by: Chim on March 11, 2018, 18:23:00
You have a good point, sveakul.

Anyway ... as to your previous question?

No, the 16.6 Meg file size of Kid3 is NOT what my problem is at SourceForge.  It's a case of SourceForge just not being Dial Up Internet-friendly.  For some reason, SourceForge has always been problematic for my Dial Up.  It always took a long time before I could even get downloads going.  In recent weeks, it is now worse for me.  Now SourceForge plain ole does NOT work.  It gets stuck at the icons for like Twitter, facebook, Etc. displaying in a huge size ... in the size of my entire screen!  :o

The other day I read on PortableApps.com that SourceForge HAD been down.  Among another problem, they had apparently also had a dds attack.  They had supposedly now fixed their problems and were now supposedly up and running.  But, for me, I still get the same stuck at the HUGE icons status problem with any SourceForge download attempt.

Oh well.  I'll now get back to my AIMP Music Library tagging / playlist making project.